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wilebill · Apr 04, 2011, 01:02 AM // 01:02

HM when there is a reason or reward. I prefer Normal Mode; but on the other hand rarely do anything in the game these days unless it is for a reason or reward.

Perkunas · Apr 04, 2011, 02:56 AM // 02:56

If I were able to play right now, it would be NM. If they had left the 600/smite alone, I would be spending more time in HM, in Nebo Terrace.

FyrFytr998 · Apr 04, 2011, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Wow, I'm actually surprised at the amount of NM responses. I guess that elitist HM pool isn't as big as I imagined, lol.

JDRyder · Apr 04, 2011, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Quaker

Actually, this thread has got me thinking about doing FoW in HM with a 7-hero team.

And once you've done it turn around and do it will a all para team :3

Voodoo Rage · Apr 04, 2011, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

Wow, I'm actually surprised at the amount of NM responses. I guess that elitist HM pool isn't as big as I imagined, lol.

I'd bet the majority of players are doing NM. Again, keep in mind that the people who actively seek out and post on a game dedicated forum are more likely to be more "upper tier" players. Even then, I used to almost always just play NM other than raptor farming. For me, I just enjoyed a more casual gaming experience. However, with the recent update, I've started to "challenge" myself to hard mode campaign missions and I'm honestly shocked that it's considerably easier than I expected. I'd have to say that 7 heroes + Hard Mode is probably about the same level of difficulty as pre-update NM.

For me, one of the "hardest" missions was Warband of Brothers, especially that first room on the 2nd level where there are like 3 mobs of Charr. Last night I cleared that mission pretty effortlessly and didn't even wipe at the end again the Effigy monsters.

Quaker · Apr 04, 2011, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

And once you've done it turn around and do it will a all para team :3

Umm.... no.

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

Wow, I'm actually surprised at the amount of NM responses. I guess that elitist HM pool isn't as big as I imagined, lol.

Yes and no. In my response I listed some things I still do in NM, but I also do some things, such as Vanquishes or VSF runs, etc., in HM. In my case, I don't have much to do in GW any more, but if I did, much of it would be in HM. (If I decide to do FoW with a 7-Hero team, I would try HM first.

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Ghull Ka · Apr 04, 2011, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Pal of mine came back from WoW to farm statues for his HoM.

We did the FoW, UW, Deep, Urgoz and are now doing DoA with 3 of us and heroes, all in Normal Mode so far. No sense in doing it in Hard Mode, it doesn't give him a better statue. And two req12 inscribable vertebreakers aren't worth significantly more than one req12 inscribable vertebreaker, soooo.... ;-)

Normal Mode ftw. HM is only for farming rep points, really, for me.

dagrdagaz · Apr 04, 2011, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Even with the 7 hero update i am not tempted much to play HM (yet).
Still enough to do thats better/easier to do in NM.

Besides that, i still need to finish Prophecies and NF, dont even have HM yet in those campaigns.

Vazze · Apr 04, 2011, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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Originally Posted by Miteshu

Ever since 7 heroes update, HM is EZ mode. I don't see any point of playing NM anymore even for title points anymore.

HM has been "EZ mode" for a long time: HM is much easier now than NM was when they introduced HM. There is no challenge left in the game, unless you make one for yourself (see "record book" here on guru).

If the reward scales with/requires HM, then you go HM. If not, than NM is obviously faster. You rarely have a choice: the game is telling you what to play.

Stolen Souls · Apr 04, 2011, 06:02 PM // 18:02

I do as much as I possibly can in HM. The better rep/bounties/SS/LB/etc make it worth it to me. However, I won't do something in HM if I feel I'm sure to get wiped and waste my time.

Eleonora Morgan · Apr 04, 2011, 06:08 PM // 18:08

I've got 18 characters spread over two accounts. Only my main has completed everything in HM, after getting GWAMM on her she's just gathering dust. The other 17 are lucky to have completed even one campaign. So yes, plenty left for me to do in NM.

Gabs88 · Apr 04, 2011, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by Sagittario

I've done everything in HM before NM, but NM missions are required for protector titles and NM dungeons are required for Master of North title. Skill capping in NM is much more comfortable.

Kinda this for me to, I do all the campaign stuff, running inbetween places, this and that in HM. But for EOTN i simply go NM first because you miss out on points by doing it in reverse (going over 80k points means you get none in NM).

EchoDelta · Apr 04, 2011, 07:46 PM // 19:46

I play NM for the War in Kryta missions. Or if I ever get the whim to work on cartography, it'll be in NM as well. No elitist here. FYI people can still struggle in HM even with 7 heroes. Plus the cost of effectively equipping all heroes is high. To this day I can't understand why people have to be smug. Stay away from me please.

MithranArkanere · Apr 05, 2011, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I still play NM... in pre-Searing.

Kharmin · Apr 05, 2011, 01:13 PM // 13:13

I'm a very casual gamer with limited online time due to family, work, etc... I have only finished EotN once and Factions once. I play NM because, quite frankly, it's easier for me. I do end up missing out on a lot of special missions and whatnot because all of the PUGs I see are wanting HM only.

Swingline · Apr 05, 2011, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Reason I play HM...

- More goldies from mobs and chests.
- Vanquisher and LMotN title
- Rep Points.
- Double drops from end chests in FoW, UW, Deep, Urgoz, DoA and EoTN Dungeons.
- When it gives some other reward besides the above 4.

Reasons I play NM...

- Comfortable Skill Capping.
- Comfortable Cartographer(if you missed it when vanquishing).
- Bringing a new character through content.
- Easy statures For HoM(was a reason till I got 50/50)
- Farming nic items
- When there are no distinguishable rewards from NM and HM.

This pretty much sums it up.

DoopDoop · Apr 07, 2011, 12:59 AM // 00:59

No risk no reward! I like as much challenge in MMOs as possible because it usually means the best rewards.

Bellatrixa · Apr 07, 2011, 01:46 PM // 13:46

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Originally Posted by Laraja

The other day we did a bogroots run and the only requirement was to use a character that you are horrible at playing. Two of us playing monks were the suckiest monks ever with awful builds, but still managed to keep the team somewhat alive (most of the time... sorta). Giving each other loads of shit for sucking had me laughing until I cried.

-highfive to us for our 1337 monk skillz of doom-

We did that in HM in case anyone wondered ;D

But yeah, most of the time I guess I do play in HM as I do a lot of FoWSC, ZBs, MTSC, EotN Dungeons etc. I'm done with my Vanquishing now apart from the odd ZV that catches my eye. All my skill capping was in NM, now I just have NM EotN dungeons left to do for the title. With my other characters, I play though storylines in NM. Why am I going to do it in HM and make it harder on myself?

Yesterday I threw together a party from the alliance of people to do NM Rragar's and told people to bring what they wanted characterwise. Aside from having two monks, we were very physical with myself as a Necro and had an Orders Ele. We all had loads of run ribbing each other on Vent and lol-ing as we plowed through the dungeon. Everyone said they actually enjoyed the change in pace for once

So yeah, NM can still be fun.

LifeInfusion · Apr 07, 2011, 02:53 PM // 14:53

correct response is: Whenever I play my ele.
real response is: Whenever I am trying to get non-max drops (R5/13,R6/14 shields), run people moas and spiders, use keys I get, or get collector trophies for Nick (less collector drops in HM).

AFAIK R8 drops don't happen in HM often. I get maybe 1-5 every week, whereas in normal mode it's pretty much every 4th drop (granted most are nonmax).

Reasons to go HM:
"Better" rewards: golds drop more...but since most gold drops aren't worth anything... IDed drops that are non-rare sell for more to merchant (~50%-100% more)
Greens drop more from bosses
You reached past the NM reputation rank and haven't maxed the reputation track of the zone you're in.
You haven't finished Vanquishing
You've never done that dungeon in HM
You've never done that mission in HM
You want tomes
You rely on spells/autoattacks for damage (Illusion Mesmers, SS necros,VoR mesmers)
You do the same damage in NM and HM because you don't use physicals, minions, or elementalists at all
Practice interrupting short cast times

ErrantVenture · Apr 07, 2011, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Only for specific farms (to get low req items) or for mapping/skill capping. Otherwise there's not a lot of point to playing NM.